Thanks Bob Your efforts are truly appreciated! sleep, must have slee..... dave

Dave; Not being able to save over an existing clip or still or having your latest saved image disappear is a current known bug. I have been testing version 12 & that's one of the things that we're working to fix on the Still Store before we release it, especially now that thumbnails will be included.

Getting totally off the original topic... My crew call this morning was 6am, however, because OK played KU in the stadium last night on TBS (Hi, Bob Grabko!) I didn't get out of here until 2 am! (build cameras, fax, etc.) mmmmm sleep would be nice, maybe I'll nap during the game... Closer to the topic in question: I have five 5-second looping animations over Chroma Key backgrounds running simultaneously in my still store. I have discovered that if you try to go into record and you don't have enough cache left (based on the "Rec Dur" setting on the "Create/Edit" page of the still store) the still store won't let you go into record. As Bob (Ennis) says, dumping the key channel and using a Chroma keyer (if available) is a handy workaround. One bug I found (Bob Ennis) is that if I have recorded a clip and saved it (into, say, clip 11) and I decide to replace it: I unlock and dump the cache in order to free up memory for the new record, then I record the replacement clip, but when I go to save it (over clip 11), instead of saving it it starts loading the previously saved clip (11). The only way to circumvent this behaviour is to reboot the entire frame, panel and menu. Just rebooting the still store causes all previously loaded clips to attempt to reload (I guess because the frame and/or menu is telling the Still Store that it still expects to see those original clips there.) Well game time's three hours away. 'skins? chiefs? I'm rooting for the clock!! cheers dave

If you have Chroma Key, try recording your animation over a chroma key background. Saves space in the still store and syncing is no longer an issue. Superblack's also an option if it will key well. As for crew calls being too early with trucks. It seems any call that's before 7am, the truck is never ready anyway, and if it is powered, they usually need an extra hour to cool or heat it before I could touch the switcher. Stay in bed the extra hour and show up when things are up and working instead of sitting and doing nothing in a cold dark control room. -Bob

[quote="Bob Ennis"]And by the way - I wouldn't view 5 AM as an early call...I would view it as a late night.[/quote] That one made me laugh out loud, classic! I had a 4:30 crew call for a morning show for a while... I couldn't hack that at all, they found somebody else and let me go after a month. If it had been full time and I hadn't had to take evening gigs on top of it in order to make a living it might have been better, but I doubt it.

By Using the INCLUDE KEY button, and by using a source that has an associated key signal (or splitting the key input into the still store), it sounds like you're doing everything right. What this sounds like (especially if it'll let you record without the INCLUDE KEY) is that by including the key signal (which doubles the amount of frames that you're recording), you're simply running out of available cache memory. Take a look at the CACHE page to determine how many total frames you have available - if you're doing a V/K record, double your number of record frames & compare it to the total number available. Even if you're out of disk space, you wouldn't get that kind of error message until you tried to do a SAVE. So my guess is that (a) you're exceeding the available cache memory, or (b) the still store has gotten into a "confused mode" - which seems to be quite common based on other postings here on Editsuite. Resetting the frame should clear (b). And by the way - I wouldn't view 5 AM as an early call...I would view it as a late night.

[quote="Mike Cumbo"]I have never used a Zodiak, but many Kalypso's. First question, are you sure that the source you are recording has a key source mapped with it? Second, you are feeding the still store the source, not an ME, right? (I did that once... early crew call..)[/quote] Yes on both questions. It does have a key signal, and I'm feed it the source. And I do agree 5am or early, I have crew call at 4 am and it kills me.

5am or earlier is my idea of too early.

[quote="Mike Cumbo"](I did that once... early crew call..)[/quote] Slight tangent here, but what do you consider an "early" crew call? You can get some rather interesting definitions of "early" in an industry made up almost entirely of night people.

I have never used a Zodiak, but many Kalypso's. First question, are you sure that the source you are recording has a key source mapped with it? Second, you are feeding the still store the source, not an ME, right? (I did that once... early crew call..)