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MVS-8000 burp

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Mike Cumbo
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Had an interesting burp with the switcher today and I am wondering if anyone else has seen it. The switcher, MVS-8000, not an "A", running version 4.01 software in 1080i mode.

Here's what happened, loaded the basketball show from a thumb drive. Same show I have been doing all season. I then ran through all my effects and snapshots, everything worked. In pre-production I used effect #6, it ran as built. Now, once in game I went to use effect #6 again and MOST of the effect ran as built HOWEVER the DME channel, CG fly, had zero keyframes, during pre-pro it had five.

The shotbox was recalling all levels correctly. The levels were PBus, P/P, DME 3.

There were no power hits, no reboots. As far as I know, no person other then I touched the switcher.

A reload from the thumb drive solved the issue, once I figured out the problem.

Rick Edwards
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[quote="MSanta"]Rick, I'm using an 8000A with i believe software version5.12.. The macro editing from the touchscreen; did you mean that the macro would recall keystrokes you did on the touchscreen.. I cant do that on my switcher.. Is that a feature that is going to come out with the next upgrade? All of the other upgrades you listed, I have and have used (side flags are greeeat) but the macro one i dont have.. thanks Mike[/quote] Mike, Unfortunately, Full Touchscreen Editing of macros means that you now have a menu where you can see all the steps, move them around, edit, add and delete them without haveing to start from scratch. Touchscreen events are still not part of macros..... RE
MSanta
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Rick, I'm using an 8000A with i believe software version5.12.. The macro editing from the touchscreen; did you mean that the macro would recall keystrokes you did on the touchscreen.. I cant do that on my switcher.. Is that a feature that is going to come out with the next upgrade? All of the other upgrades you listed, I have and have used (side flags are greeeat) but the macro one i dont have.. thanks Mike
Rick Edwards
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[quote="Mike Cumbo"]Rick, I'll have to check on Saturday when I'm on the 8000. One thing, does the INSTALL page show you the hardware or is it just what version OS?? I wish I read this at the arena.[/quote] I *think* if you're on version 5 or above, the install menu shows the actual hardware. I'm not in front of a switcher so I don't remember... RE
Mike Cumbo
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Rick, I'll have to check on Saturday when I'm on the 8000. One thing, does the INSTALL page show you the hardware or is it just what version OS?? I wish I read this at the arena.
Rick Edwards
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[quote="pjkelnhofer"]How does one tell if the switcher they are sitting in front of is an 8000 or an 8000A?[/quote] That's a very good question! The most obvious way would be to look at the mainframe. If the mainframe is big (16RU) then it's an original 8000. If it's half the size (8RU) then it's an 8000A. The other way might be to go into ENGR SETUP->SYSTEM->INSTALL then select the Switcher. I think it will tell you what you're running. Can't be sure... not in front of a switcher at the moment. RE
pjkelnhofer
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How does one tell if the switcher they are sitting in front of is an 8000 or an 8000A?
Mike Cumbo
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I only wish we could upgrade the truck's switcher to the "A" version... Having a larger SS would be nice in certain cases.
Bill D
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[quote="Rick Edwards"][quote="Bill D"][quote="Rick Edwards"]Mike, From what I've read, this is a known bug in that, relatively old, version of software (at least a year if not more old). I would encourage the truck's EIC to upgrade to, the the very least, v4.22. The current release is v5.11. RE[/quote] Was there a significant feature change from ver 4 to ver 5. Also any news on what is being released at NAB that is new? Bill[/quote] Not really that many things but a few cool features...... 1. Fixed lots of bugs (like the one described above) 2. Added a new feature called "Side Flags". On the 8000A only, in HD mode if you have a source that's been upconverted, you tell the switcher that the original aspect of the video was 4:3 and it will replace the side pillars with live video from one of the utility busses. Kinda cool. 3. You can now lock individaul menus in the setup area on a menu by menu basis 4. Full macro editing on the touchscreen, both online and offline 5. You can now load and save Frame Memory files in the background so the touchscreen isn't tied up As I said, it wasn't a huge upgrade. You can find all the stuff at the beginning of the v5 user manual availbale at As far as NAB..... Sony ain't saying nothin'. I don't know whether that's good or bad???? RE[/quote] The side flags does sound like a cool feature, as well as offline macro editing. I saw the macro editing last year at NAB (it was done through the flexipad) I thought that was a great feature.
Rick Edwards
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[quote="Bill D"][quote="Rick Edwards"]Mike, From what I've read, this is a known bug in that, relatively old, version of software (at least a year if not more old). I would encourage the truck's EIC to upgrade to, the the very least, v4.22. The current release is v5.11. RE[/quote] Was there a significant feature change from ver 4 to ver 5. Also any news on what is being released at NAB that is new? Bill[/quote] Not really that many things but a few cool features...... 1. Fixed lots of bugs (like the one described above) 2. Added a new feature called "Side Flags". On the 8000A only, in HD mode if you have a source that's been upconverted, you tell the switcher that the original aspect of the video was 4:3 and it will replace the side pillars with live video from one of the utility busses. Kinda cool. 3. You can now lock individaul menus in the setup area on a menu by menu basis 4. Full macro editing on the touchscreen, both online and offline 5. You can now load and save Frame Memory files in the background so the touchscreen isn't tied up As I said, it wasn't a huge upgrade. You can find all the stuff at the beginning of the v5 user manual availbale at As far as NAB..... Sony ain't saying nothin'. I don't know whether that's good or bad???? RE
Bill D
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[quote="Rick Edwards"]Mike, From what I've read, this is a known bug in that, relatively old, version of software (at least a year if not more old). I would encourage the truck's EIC to upgrade to, the the very least, v4.22. The current release is v5.11. RE[/quote] Was there a significant feature change from ver 4 to ver 5. Also any news on what is being released at NAB that is new? Bill
Mike Cumbo
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Rick, thanks. I knew they were behind but not that far behind in software upgrades. Funny thing is, prior to yesterday that bug never bit me.
Rick Edwards
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[quote="Mike Cumbo"]Had an interesting burp with the switcher today and I am wondering if anyone else has seen it. The switcher, MVS-8000, not an "A", running version 4.01 software in 1080i mode. Here's what happened, loaded the basketball show from a thumb drive. Same show I have been doing all season. I then ran through all my effects and snapshots, everything worked. In pre-production I used effect #6, it ran as built. Now, once in game I went to use effect #6 again and MOST of the effect ran as built HOWEVER the DME channel, CG fly, had zero keyframes, during pre-pro it had five. The shotbox was recalling all levels correctly. The levels were PBus, P/P, DME 3. There were no power hits, no reboots. As far as I know, no person other then I touched the switcher. A reload from the thumb drive solved the issue, once I figured out the problem.[/quote] Mike, From what I've read, this is a known bug in that, relatively old, version of software (at least a year if not more old). I would encourage the truck's EIC to upgrade to, the the very least, v4.22. The current release is v5.11. RE