Hi John (Willis), The Kalypso I was using at the time was a classic. It turns out the offending card MAY have been transported around a bit (between Kalypsos), and may have developed the fault then. I've worked on a lot of Kalypsos, and .. on the whole, I think they're pretty reliable. Good luck with 5 of them ! Cheers, Jenny

Remember when the only things that could go wrong were in the hardware, so that was the first place you'd look?

OK everyone .. the answer is ; it is/was a HARD FAULT on the ME card !!! The Techo's found it ! They swapped cards in the frame, and the fault followed the card. They have since replaced the card and the problem has gone !!! They (nor anyone they have spoken to) have heard of this before .. but, there you go. If you hear of this elsewhere, it is an ME card fault !! To reiterate ; none of the 3 transform engines would key on the PGM/PST, but with exactly the same keystrokes, would key on any other row. Thanks to everyone for hints and suggestions. Keep up the forum !! Many thanks ... Jenny

G'Day Jenny I think Jeremy might be on the right track. Possibly the Default Keyframe for that keyer has the Transform Engine in a non-standard position etc, so when you select it, the Source is no longer visible. Does the Source disappear when you do the Effects Send (ie, TE is no longer on screen), or does the TE simply not engage? Have you tried setting things up on a different keyer, and then doing a "key swap"? This should highlight whether you have a full-grown technical bug or just an annoying operator error. brad

A silly question possibly, but in your first post you wrote that you weren't able to "key" the transform engine. Nobody addressed this.....are you not able to use the TE, such as shrink, stretch, move, zoom the keyer, or is what you are putting in the TE unkeyable??

Hi Jenny: I thought that might be part of your problem. One TE Card = 3 Transform engines. I have never had a problem assigning TE's to any keyer on a Kalypso (including the DSK's) which is why I suggested releasing the other keyer transforms. Make sure they are fully released and do what Stephan suggested by manually going into your M/E menu and reassigning the effects send to your PGM/PST. As I mentioned, with only 3 engines you won't be able to assign or even copy the keyers unless you can release them from the other ME's. As for the Zodiak ... .yes it is true, the 3 DSK Keyers are not ones that you can have transform engines on. They work on the ME's but not the DSK's on that particular switcher.

That is right, the Zodiac I was on was a 2.5 ME. I had to burn a keyer up stream to get the effect I was looking for. I tried the TE on our kalypso, I was able to put a TE on any keyer on any M/E including M/E 4. We do have access to all 6 transforms.

If your Zodiak or Kayak has *.5 M/Es, P/P will be the "half" M/E which can only do simple linear/luminance keys and cuts/dissolves, so no TEs. Dunno about Kalypso, though, AFAIK there are no "half" M/Es on a Kalypso. Try going into the M/E -> effects send menu and see if you can manually assign a TE to a keyer on P/P.

Hi Rick, Yes .. I've checked that one. We have one TE card .. ie 3 transform engines which can all be keyed on any ME row, but ... NOT on the PGM/PST row with exactly the same key settings .... ? Not sure about the Zodiac, but interesting. Any other suggestions ?

I've noticed this on the Zodiac. TE's would work on the ME's but not PGM/PVW. I was under the assumption that it couldn't be done on the zodiac, please correct me if I am wrong here. greg

This may be a silly answer, but how many transform engines are you using on the first effect. It's possible that you don't have any more transform engines to use. Depending on the options purchased on the switcher, you may only have ONE transform generator which translates into 3 transform engines. You just might be out of transform engines if they only purchased one or you may need to release the ones you already programmed on the M/E so you can use them on your PGM/PST. The bottom line is you may limited if you only have the one generator.