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Side Flags

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John A
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With the mix of HD sources with SD sources on our Kalypso today how are news shops adding side flags to 4:3 sources. I have been thinking of attaching a macro that adds a key source for the panels with each x-point possible or creating a secondary output on one of the ME's that has the flags that would be selected with each x-point.

Bob Ennis
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In the COPY/SWAP menu, there is a selection for Source Memory. Set up the keyer the way you want it (with the wipe shape, border & border source) and then copy that one source (on the left window) to all M/E keyers (on the right side - you can select multiple M/E's & multiple keyers) & ten select the ALL SOURCES button on the bottom of the right pane. Then press the COPY button. That should do what you want.

Bob Ennis

John A
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Thanks Bob. I set up all my 4x3 sources on one keyer, then tried to copy source memory from that keyer to all ME's but the copy did not transfer. If I select pgm/pst key 1 and copy all ME's, Keys 1-4 selecting all sources..shouldn't all the source memory resources copy to all the ME keyers? Another option may be to set up the default source memory using the border fill for each 4x3 source.
John Henkel
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Thanks Bob!
Bob Ennis
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OK, the answer (or at least one answer) to John A's question is this: Use one of the utility buses for the video for the side flags for that M/E. On the keyer to be used for the flagged source, simply make that keyer a preset pattern and activate a horizontal split wipe - adjust the wipe border so that it covers the black edges (pillar area) of the 4X3 video. Replace the matte fill of the wipe border with the Utility bus. Turn on Source Memory, so that every time you take the source manually you will see the flags. Recalling with E-MEMs will automatically recall the flags anyway. No Need for macros unless the source that you're using pops between 4X3 & 16X9 - if you're going to use macros, turn off the Source Memory. If you're trying to take these flagged sources as primary crosspoints, put the M/E into either Split mode or PCF Mode & use the B, C &/or D outputs as re-entry sources (1st pulling the flagged keyers off of the primary output). Because the keyers on the other outputs are preset patterns & essentially full-screen, the background buses won't be seen & thus are not a factor.

Bob Ennis

John Henkel
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Gee, I just noticed. . . How come people continue to post info on other switchers in the GVG forum? The question was clearly asked about a Kalypso. C'mon people, what's so hard about this? The trouble is that John A. never got much of an answer to his question. And now I can't delete or move just the Sony-related parts of the thread. -JH
Bob Ennis
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Rick - Thanks for the clarification. I'm using MP2, & am using all 3 M/E Utility buses, plus all of the DME paths for 4-channel keys or 2-to-3 channel DME wipes. I couldn't figure out how I missed a 4th Utility bus...I could sure use it.

Bob Ennis

Rick Edwards
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Actually, I might be off by a bus. The M/E has the two util buses (3 if you have Multi-PGM2), then technically I count the DME utility buses as well). RE
Bob Ennis
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Rick - OK, now I'm curious...I know about the 3 Utility buses per M/E on the 8K - I'm using all 3 right now. Where does the 4th one come into play? I haven't seen that one in the schmatic diagrams. If this isn't appropriate for the GV portion of this site, please feel free to e-mail me directly...I'd like to know.

Bob Ennis

kschneider
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Since we're talking about other switchers here - it sounds like the same thing that was shown at IBC on KAHUNA and will be available next month. Cheers, -= Ken =-
Rick Edwards
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Actually, the 8000A doesn't use a keyer at all for side flags. It's completely automatic and doesn't use any resources from the switcher. It uses one of the 4 Utility buses that are on each M/E. All you have to do is set each input to 4:3 mode and the switcher will automaticaly add the side flags from the utlility bus. Pretty cool. Since you're using a video bus instead of a frame memory you can have live video and you don't have to worry about setting bus links or using keyers.
jonas
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sounds like what an 8k is doing with the 'side flags' feature now... you could also map your utility outputs back into your truck's/station's router so they appear with flags everywhere in your world (tape, etc...)