Mike, the 8000 does have Multi-PGM mode (just not Multi-PGM 2). Try the one I described for MP and see if that works for you. RE

Rick, the truck is owned by Comcast SportsNet. They just lost baseball in Baltimore. I would rather they replace the VTRs with networked EVS and give the TD one to replace the Fast Forward. BTW, thanks for the info. I wish we would have thought up all the "what ifs" when we were trained on the box.

[quote="Mike Cumbo"]Rick, it's an 8000.... No Multi-PGM. Let's see, since March I have done maybe eight shows on an 8000 and I wish I didn't go back and forth between boxes every day. I forgot about the DME MONITOR option. For hoops, they use it for a clock camera. (Don't ask, production wants a clock on several sources EVEN though they are invalid for the NBA.) Right now all of the effects we have are built not to touch ME1. I just want to be able to use the bloody ME for something other then feeding a plasma.[/quote] Well, maybe convince the truck co to upgrade to a 8000A :-) I know...ha ha ha.... RE

Rick, it's an 8000.... No Multi-PGM. Let's see, since March I have done maybe eight shows on an 8000 and I wish I didn't go back and forth between boxes every day. I forgot about the DME MONITOR option. For hoops, they use it for a clock camera. (Don't ask, production wants a clock on several sources EVEN though they are invalid for the NBA.) Right now all of the effects we have are built not to touch ME1. I just want to be able to use the bloody ME for something other then feeding a plasma.

[quote="Mike Cumbo"]Here is the need: Take image, put it into a DME channel and rotate it 90 degrees. Feed the keyer out to a plasma screen in the booth. (It's a plasma so there is no yoke to rotate.) Right now the less then elegant method of doing this eats an ME up. Can I A) assign specific keyers to specific outputs? B) Eliminate snapshot control? When I trained on the 8000 these things weren't brought up. (YES, an A-53 outside the truck would be much easier for us.)[/quote] Well, let's see...... Let's first assume you don't have Multi-PGM II (if you did....there's your answer) There are a few ways to do this..... 1. You can assign a channel of DME to the DME MONITOR output. There is a button on the keyer panel called MON. Once you set the keyer on the M/E, assign the DME channel of your choice, etc, press the MON button and that DME channel (or channels if you're combining on the keyer) will be sent to two special internal sources called DME MONV and DME MONK. Set these as video/key pairs and assign to a button. then you can put that ona n aux bus. They won't care if the keyer is on or not. You just have to make sure the effect or snapshot is stored correctly so it routes that keyer to the monitor out. You will likely have to modify other effects to keep the monitor selection static. That's why this answer is the easiest but the most risky. 2. You can assign any single keyer to PROC KEY (basically, effects send). There is a button on the keyer panel called PROC KEY. If you select a keyer, then press this button, it will assign that keyer (and its key signal) to special M/E sources called M/Ex PROC VIDEO and M/Ex PROC KEY. If you take these sources (or just the video if you wish) and assign them to video/key pairs then map to a button you can feed out an aux bus. Again, you have to make sure ALL effects are still pointing to the same keyer but in this case there is one PROC KEY output per M/E so M/E 3 won't affect M/E 1. 3. This one is more work to setup but it's much less likely to snag you on air. Use one of the two M/E KEY PVW outputs. This time, you will need to be in either Multi-PGM or Multi-PGM2 mode. Go to Setup->Switcher->Config and turn on MP or MP2. Next go to the M/E Out config menu and set an available M/E output to KEY PVW 1. Next, enter the sub menu to set KEY PVW. There you will find the ability to set the key type (video or key). In this case, set to video. Then you set each key to either be OFF, ON or Link (meaning will appear on this output if the keyer is on.) For this type of effect, I would use always ON. What you have just done is assign an output to KEY PVW1 and set KEY PVW 1 to have only a single keyer ON and the rest off. Next, you need to delete that keyer from the main PGM OUT for that M/E (unless you're not using the M/E for anything - then who cares?). Go back to setup->Switcher->Config and this time select M/E PGM Define. Look at the table for that M/E's PGM1 (which is probably OUT1) then turn off the keyer you assigned for KEY PVW. Just remember that it's off! If you DO have Multi-PGM II, this is VERY easy as you have all this accessible in the M/E Menu. When a particular M/E is in MP2 mode, OUT1 and OUT2 are still set to M/Ex PGM1 and PVW1. OUT 5 is M/Ex PVW2 (SUB) and OUT 6 is M/Ex PGM2 (SUB). OUT 3 is still set to CLEAN and OUT 4 is open. You can still do step 3 using OUT 4 is you like (but the cool part is if you have M/E CONFIG RECALL on then the keyer setting are on a Keyframe by keframe basis so you don't have to remember to turn the funny key stuff off). Or in MP2 mode, you can just use the M/Ex SUB side to do this stuff. I hope this helped more than it confused. Sometimes it's just easier to sit in front of a switcher. RE