We did have four outputs wired up to loop back in for sub use, but we're not using them now. So I made them route-able aux returns that I can use for other things as well - flexibility!. Only thing is I can't figure out how to make the routed sources go to high tally when they're online. How do I set them up to tally? Somehow I have to tell the switcher that these four aux outputs are returning to four inputs so it will tally. We have our external DME channels configured to do this already with its aux feeds, but I can't figure out how it was done.

The subs have always been able to be re-mapped...it's just that the current software artificially restricts you from being able to call up a sub onto a main on the same M/E. The BNC loopback does mean that your re-entry will be a line low, just like pretty much any switcher that your do this trick on.

Heh... we haven't even gotten this thing on the air yet and I'm already looking into the "hacks". I thought we already had the subs going out and then in per some software limitation - at least we planned for that before the software was loaded. However maybe they solved that "problem" with the latest software version and we didn't need them after all maybe??? I kind of remember the Sony guys saying "hey, they already have them mapped" or something to their surprise. I think the subs were already mapped to the shift-m/e crosspoints by default. I'll go recheck my inputs menu and see whats going on. The Aux return is a great idea though... thanks. Maybe they already wired up re-entries for four subs before realizing they're not needed, and if we're not using them for that then I can use those re-entries for auxes (no need to bug an engineer). I appreciate everyone's answers to my questions. We're hitting the air with this thing early January.

Sorry - I misread your question...Until the software that allows re-entries is activated, you can use the old trick of taking a BNC cable out of one output and loop it back as an input. I use AUXes as the loopbacks so that I can select any output of any M/E for what I need to re-enter (plus, by using AUXes, they can be recalled with Snapshots & Timelines).

Yes, I have them mapped on the shift sides, but I can't take for example M/E3 Sub as a source on M/E3 main. The switcher's logic keeps me from selecting that source. I'm not sharing any keyers so I can't see why that would be an issue for the switcher... UNLESS... maybe the fact that I don't have Utility 2 inhibit on keeps it from doing so??? Utility 2 is common between the two and could potentially cause feedback, maybe thats it...

[quote="jbs"]Hey... Is there a setup trick to allow an M/E sub to be punched up on that M/E's main? Right now I can't punch up a sub on the same main except of course through my external DME channels.[/quote] As I understand it at theis version of software, you have to physically re-enter. I was told sometime around the middle of next year that won't be the case. Anyway, I just map these re-entered inputs in the SHIFT- M/E. The only catch to that is there's no PGM button on P/P so you'll have to use another button if you want to take PP SUB to PP Main. RE

If you're talking about the Multi-Program sub side, then if you have the MP2 option, you can program the Macro Pre & Post attach buttons as Pri & Sub. You can also program the Patt Limit & Limit Set buttons to act as your selections to the Primary & Sub sides. I'm not in front of a panel right now, but I believe that the assignments for these buttons are in the Engineering/Panel (or maybe Engineering/Switcher) menu.