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New Sony 8000A - shotboxes and user framestore snapshots

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smog
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Hello

I wonder if anyone can help me.

i've got a new 8000a to play with before starting to pilot programmes next week.

1: when you copy a shotbox onto a memory stick or harddrive, does it also copy the associated effects and snapshots - or do I have to do these individually too?

2: I've got some user snapshots as part of my shotboxes to change framestores but each ss seems to change ALL the frame stores - is there a way of telling the snapshot just to change e.g framestore 1?

Any help is very much appreciated!!

Rick Edwards
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[quote="smog"]hiya Rick Thanks very much for your help that's really useful Re: shotbox memories - fab thanks!! Re: frame stores and Users - I had some effects set up already with the aux buses so have put the frame mems on users 5-8 (split with two on each). I might change this and make them 1-4 beofre we start properly piloting. Thanks also for the info on how to change frame stores though an effect - I'll try and do it via snapshots primarily unless I run out of users. OK - next question...I've only got 4 DME channels and was thinking of putting the extra users (5-8) on the DME 5-8 buttons next to the numeric keypad... I know I can do it...(well I'm sure)...I just have no idea how... Any ideas anyone?[/quote] Menu page 7321.7. This will let you assign anything to the 10-key buttons. If you have V6 or greater, you can assign up to 4 regions on a single button. Also, I noticed you said you use Snapshots for FM stuff. To do the PATH OFF you must use a KF effect. There is currently no way to do something like that using Snapshots. RE
smog
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In fact...forget that last question. i found it Cheers
smog
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hiya Rick Thanks very much for your help that's really useful Re: shotbox memories - fab thanks!! Re: frame stores and Users - I had some effects set up already with the aux buses so have put the frame mems on users 5-8 (split with two on each). I might change this and make them 1-4 beofre we start properly piloting. Thanks also for the info on how to change frame stores though an effect - I'll try and do it via snapshots primarily unless I run out of users. OK - next question...I've only got 4 DME channels and was thinking of putting the extra users (5-8) on the DME 5-8 buttons next to the numeric keypad... I know I can do it...(well I'm sure)...I just have no idea how... Any ideas anyone?
Rick Edwards
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[quote="smog"]Hello I wonder if anyone can help me. i've got a new 8000a to play with before starting to pilot programmes next week. 1: when you copy a shotbox onto a memory stick or harddrive, does it also copy the associated effects and snapshots - or do I have to do these individually too? 2: I've got some user snapshots as part of my shotboxes to change framestores but each ss seems to change ALL the frame stores - is there a way of telling the snapshot just to change e.g framestore 1? Any help is very much appreciated!![/quote] Hi....... 1. Shotboxes only store data about other data. In other words, no when you store shotbox data you're only storing just what the shotbox should call up. You'll also need to store the unerlying effects/snapshots as well. Doing this is very easy..... if you want to save everything just use the ALL section of the FILE menu. If you want to do it individually, select the portion you want in the FILE menu and hit ALL below the scroll box to select all registers. 2. When MVS ships from the factory, it puts all the Frame Memories on USER4. I really, really disagree with this. There are 8 USER regions. I would strongly suggest that you redefine the USER regions before going any further. Someone from Sony convinced me long ago to set the following: USER 1: FM 1 & FM 2 USER 2: FM 3 & FM 4 USER 3: FM 5 & FM 6 USER 4: FM 7 & FM 8 USER 5: AUX BUS USER 6: COLOR BGKD (If you care about this at all) You define your USER assignments on menu page 7331.4. Be warned that when you chane USER settings, old effects with USER effects/snapshot will no longer load becuase of data incompatibility. If you redefine these, then you have 4 separate buttons with a "logical thinking" 4 Frame Memory pair configuration. By the way, if you really DO want to have all of them on USER4 or, in the new configuration mentioned above, you want to only have one of them change here's how: If you're using a SNAPSHOT, you're out of luck. It's kind of a flaw that's been in the software forever that you can't use a XPT HOLD to tell MVS to leave a FM recall alone on a snapshot. Kind of inconvenient, but in the big picture not a huge deal. Use an 1 KF EFFECT. Let's assume you're using USER 1 (FM 1 & FM 2) and you want to recall only FM 1, but leave FM 2 alone. I'll explain that then you can figure out how to do it with others...... 1. Recall the FM you want on FM 1 2. Insert a single KEYFRAME on a blank EFFECT register using USER 1 as your region assignment 3. Go to Menu Page 6113.5. This is the EFF->PATH->USER 1 menu. If you're doing other USERs then select a different USER on the path menu 4. As you scroll, you'll see the FMs that have been assigned to that particular USER. The others should be greyed out. Touch the PATH icon for the FM you want to leave ALONE (should probably by default look like a Triangle or Stairs - Linear or STEP). 5. Change the path to OFF. This will tell MVS to have NO PATH when this keyframe hits. For this simple task, it is just telling it to leave this FM alone. When you get into M/E or DME keyframes, this feature is VERY cool and found on virtually no other switcher. As you get better at MVS, play with this feature -- you love it. Hope this helps, RE